和北大毕业的李想黎明蔚来创始人李斌相比,理想汽车创始人李想显得有些另类。第季

只有高中学历的辅助稳定网络连接他,没有名校光环,驾驶却凭借对市场独到的黑暗认知,接连成功创办泡泡网、李想黎明汽车之家、第季理想汽车等企业,辅助成为汽车圈乃至风投圈炙手可热的驾驶名人。
昨天晚上,黑暗李想举办了第二季AI talk,李想黎明距离第一季AI talk已经过去130天,第季而在这130天里,辅助稳定网络连接全球AI行业发生了翻天覆地的驾驶变化。访谈中,黑暗李想提出的很多观点,值得汽车圈人士深思。

李想透露,理想汽车内部没有专门的人工智能战略小组,只有聊天群,大家在群里聊天分享,摸索出理想汽车用户在智能化方面最需要的东西。
针对辅助驾驶,李想认为已经走到新的十字路口,包括关于辅助驾驶遇到的社会问题。在他看来,这些都是黎明前的黑暗。只要解决了这些问题,辅助驾驶的进一步普及,不是问题。

目前,理想汽车有着不错的辅助驾驶性能表现,而理想的下一步是VLA(Vision-Language-Action Model,视觉语言模型),这并非放弃一年前才出现的端到端,而是将端到端想象成一个具身智能执行的环节。
按照当下的技术水平,没有人能一步直达VLA,就像没有人能一口就吃下10个包子。理想之所以能在辅助驾驶领域暂时领先,是基于过去多年的积累,因为理想从2021年开始就基于征程3芯片做自研。

针对特斯拉FSD今年进入中国,理想团队判断,特斯拉大概使用12.5代之前的模型,这并非特斯拉的真正实力,并且距离特斯拉真实能力还有很大差距。
有意思的是,在回忆2022年理想L9发布时,李想认为那是全球最卓越的产品,并且到了2025年,依旧能看到有至少5个车企,在借鉴理想L9,打造类似的产品。
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